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LEO’s Interview with the Mayor and Otter Creek Park by joelhunt

If you haven’t seen it by now, we wanted to make you aware that LEO Weekly‘s issue this week includes their extensive annual interview with Louisville Mayor Jerry Abramson, who has quite a bit to say about both the controversy surrounding the closing of Otter Creek Park, and our group, the Friends of Otter Creek Park. Here’s the relevant parts of the interview (you can read the entire interview here):

LEO: Another group that is getting louder by the day—

JA [Jerry Abramson]: Otter Creek.

LEO: Yes, the Friends of Otter Creek.

JA: It is very simple to explain to you why we moved in that direction. For many years, I’ve had this discussion with six governors — I’ve been mayor a long time — we have thought that this magnificent park, this very, very unique jewel of a wilderness setting and just gorgeous landscape, needed to be a state park. Because we don’t do a very good job running it, because we know how to run municipal parks — we can handle Cherokee Park, we know how to do Iroquois Park, we can handle Shawnee Park, we know how to handle Hays Kennedy Park or Long Run Park, etc. — but we don’t do very well in terms of a park that has cabins and hookups for RVs, for electricity and water.

So we have said we lose money every year; we used to lose $500,000 a year. We’ve tried to get governors to take it over. There was always a reason not to. I tried to work with the federal government, to have Fort Knox take it over; there was always a reason not to. We talked with the Meade County judge — it’s in Meade County — several judges ago, and asked him if we could serve wine. Maybe if we could serve wine and champagne, there might be an opportunity to host more events, which would help cover some of the expenses to defray the cost — because if you’re spending $500,000 out there, you could’ve spent the $500,000 at … parks within Louisville-Jefferson County. We tried to get the liquor license; the county judge made a commitment they would vote it wet, and then at the fiscal court meeting, he voted no.

… At this point in time, when you’re looking for a half a million dollars, and you’re also looking for money that you can save for these six months that will roll forward because this next budget’s going to be even tougher, we said we’re going to close it, and see if that would generate interest. [emphasis ours]

And you know what? The state parks are going out there, the state Fish & Wildlife [department is] going out there, I met with the garrison commander of Fort Knox — they’ve been out there twice. So all of a sudden, there’s a lot of energy around in terms of what can we do to ensure that the park is open as soon as possible? The county judge in Meade County is interested, he’s said, in making it an industrial park, or a residential area. Well, we’re not going to allow it to be developed into an industrial facility. We want it to be what it is: a beautiful wildlife preserve, an opportunity for folks to commune with nature. We’ve also got nonprofits that have contacted us: the Y[MCA] has a facility out there, [Boy] Scouts, saying what role can we play?

Suffice to say, we’re working on crafting a response to Mayor Abramson’s comments, to be published in LEO as soon as possible. We’re also very interested in meeting with him to discuss Otter Creek Park, anytime. However, there’s some elements of this interview that, based on just our initial impressions from reading it, we have to respond to.

According to Mayor Abramson above, closing Otter Creek Park was actually a ploy to save it! Somehow, we’re not buying this argument. Louisville has a number of private/public partnerships and quasi-governmental groups dedicated to serving citizens. Off the top of my head, I can think of the Olmstead Parks Conservancy, the Downtown Development Corporation, Greater Louisville Inc., Waterfront Development Corp., etc. If Otter Creek Park has been such a drag on the city’s budget year after year, why wasn’t any initiative taken to fix the problem before closing the Park? The savings of closing OCP reportedly only comes to $180,000 per year — why was there no effort to try to find that money from sources other than Louisville Metro’s budget?

Which goes on to the second problem of finding a group — whether governmental or otherwise — to run the Park now: how does closing the Park complicate the problems it already has? What hidden costs might be added as a result of the closing? Certainly while closing Otter Creek Park to visitors has kick-started our group’s activism on behalf of the Park, it has also hurt interest in OCP by both local residents and visitors from elsewhere. Sure, it’s winter, and that’s the slowest season for outdoor recreation, but closing the Park entirely has to have had a “chilling effect” (pardon the pun). Additionally, since the Park isn’t being maintained, what start-up costs will a potential buyer/operator have to contend with? Wouldn’t the Park be more attractive if it was still open and being maintained?

The Mayor goes on to discuss Friends of Otter Creek Park within the context of “citizen enragement”:

LEO: I was at a community meeting [last] week in the southwestern part of the city. It’s been my experience at some of these meetings, including some where you’ve been there, that they start off on issues — and this one was about Otter Creek Park — and they get derailed into criticism of you, conspiracy theories about you and your administration. It seems to me this is the only part of the city where this happens with such regularity and drama.

JA: Citizen engagement is great. The fact that there are individuals pulling together to set up a Friends of Otter Creek, to look at options, to work with me ultimately on how we can keep it open. I think citizen engagement is great.

What troubles me are those that are involved in citizen enragement, and I’m afraid that in the area you’re referencing, there are two or three individuals who take much more pride in involving themselves in citizen enragement rather than citizen engagement.

… Citizen enragement, with sometimes not sharing the facts, framing the issues in a way that enrage rather than involve — unfortunately there have been a couple of folks out there in that area that have done that more than once, on more than one issue. And so it is what it is: We work with the folks who want to work with us.

I can’t speak for anyone else involved in Friends of Otter Creek Park in terms of their feelings towards Mayor Abramson. Given that our group consists of a large, diverse group of individuals from all over the surrounding region — including people who don’t live in Louisville Metro — it’s fair to say that there is probably not one, monolithic point of view given Louisville’s Mayor.

Speaking for the group, however, I will say that Friends of Otter Creek Park is ready to work with Mayor Abramson or any other government official, organization, charity, or group willing and interested in reopening Otter Creek Park. Period.

That said, our meetings are open to the public, and we value what everyone in the community has to say — otherwise we wouldn’t bother with public comment periods at our meetings. As far as I’m concerned, Friends of Otter Creek Park is about finding a solution to the problem through democratic and transparent means. The citizens of Louisville Metro and Jefferson County don’t deserve any less than that.

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The Mayor has a problem with veracity. Many people have been engaged with Otter Creek for years! The truth is Jerry would not make any effort to secure other funding or, to implement ideas. The only effort he has put out is to get rid of it. If these comments make me some ignorant, red-necked, won’t work with government, southwest native, then so be it. Veritas Vincit( truth conquers). Tim

Comment by Tim Keith

I live now in the “east end” and also wholeheartedly support the too-often neglected south end of our community. This situation has been going on for a long time. In fact, I wrote a letter to the C-J concerning the mayor’s attempts to close the park sometime circa 1984.

While I understand our economic situation (in fact I envision a high likelyhood of an all out economic depression), I also understand that during the 1930s we were able to keep and even expand recreational lands throughout our nation. Closing the underutilized lodge at Otter Creek (which I thought at the time of construction was a mistake and a blemish on the landscape of the park) and actually advertising and promoting the park would probably close the small money-gap anyway.

What I believe we have now is a wealthy elite who often have complete disregard for, and even a disdain for, their fellow Americans (fortunately there are a still a few notable exceptions in our community). Public money can be used freely for the Fletcherites’ dream of the downtown arena (I don’t think I’ll be in a luxury box anytime soon), but God forbid that the average family will benefit from public money. Its Socialism…but only for the rich.

I have supported our mayor in the past, but I agree that he tends too much only to concern himself with downtown and the Highlands while things like our rising urban crime rate go untended and the south end is ignored.

Comment by Jerry O'Bryan

MY HUSBAND AND I VOULENTERED THE FULL MONTH OF OCTOBER IN OTTERCREEK PICKING UP TRASH,WORKING THE HAUNTED WOODS DOING WHATEVER WAS NEEDED WE WERE NOT PAID YET JEFFERSON CO. PAYS UNION WORKERS TO DO WHAT WE AND MANY OTHER CAMPERS DO FOR FREE WHY??? SEEMS TO ME THE MAYOR PAYING THESE UNION WORKERS IS & WAS A BIG WASTE OF MONEY I KNOW MY HUSBAND AND I WOULD VOULENTERR TO WORK THE CAMPGROUNG FOR FREE. ALSO CAMP HOSTS WHY? ARE THEY PAID YEAR ROUND ANOTHER WASTE OF MONEY THEY SHOULD BE PAID ONLY WHILE THE PARK IS OPEN FOR THE SEASON. THERE IS LOTS OF WAYS TO SAVE MONEY AND SAVE THIS PARK FOR THE THOUSANDS WHO VISIT AND LOVE IT EVERY YEAR!!! I HAVE ALSO GATHERED SIGNATURES ON PETITIONS HOPING TO SAVE OUR PARK…MY EMAIL IS fraleyelectricll@aol.com

Comment by SHERRI FRALEY

I think if there could be 100 acres set aside for a casino/resort (which fits into recreation requirement) like French Lick it could keep the rest of the park the way it is with bike paths, horseback riding paths to hook up to 100 loop whenever it is finished in Jefferson Co. As it is now all of our money goes to the casino in Indiana and its one county. A Santa Claus land type of recreation area with a village could be started. I know I would go. Ky Kingdom is fine but it is in the middle of the concrete jungle. They can always be set up as non profit. The people who work get paid and the profit goes to the region here in our state. There are a lot of kids in Meade Co. who would love to work a summer job at Otter Creek. On a slightly different note, the best playground in the whole region is Diana’s Playground at St. John’s and it was built by her family and the community. What a wonderful memorial!

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